Is there such a thing as PAS' hudud and UMNO's hudud ?Hudud is hudud and no two ways about it as l a non-muslim understand it. Why must we understand hudud as PAS hudud UMNO hudud etc? MCA you are not only irrelevant but being headed by a porno king is just not making chinese angry but also the malay muslim angry. Votes sure to swing to PR and how desperate you all in BN - Ahjibkor sure not happy with you king porno. Please don't you speak for us Chinese we support Tok Guru/PAS and l must tell you 15k people turned up to hear Tok Guru ceramah in the Batu Kawah Kuching in the last state election. CSL you were here in kuching also during this period but you choosed to turn up in the wrong places as you always have been...MCA is against the majority of chinese aspirations and MCA shut up like Gilakan Soup Mic key mouse Parti Bunuh Bumiputra/PBB. While he is against PAS' hudud, he is in support of UMNO's hudud. Don't try to mislead the people as UMNO's hudud is exactly the same as PAS' hudud.to say that "you do not understand the hudud issue" is indeed a grand admission. I suppose for you, there are much more mundane & pleasurable issues that you understand to the fullest. A word of advice: don't allow that cocky son of your to follow you wherever you go; it's easy to pick up pleasurable habits.I'm no scholar, but will anwers pornstar SoiLek. First, hudud is only to be impplmened on Muslims, it is not applied to non-Muslims as there is no compulsion in the religion of Islam on the non-Muslims. What if a Muslim rapes a non-Muslim women? Answer: The man shall be subjected to punishment under the hudud law, as he's a Muslim. As for the non-Muslim woman, no punishment at all, as she was forced into the act. Infact, under the Islamic law she will be protected and shall be given some kind of compensation for the pain that she endured. What if its a consent, the man will still be punished under the hudud law. As for the woman, she will be given a choice between wanting the hudud law or civil law and will not be forced to accept hudud.I for one would love to see before I die that Islamic laws be implemented in this country (off course, only for the muslims as that what it meant to be contrary to some "bright" people who still thinks it can be implemented on non-muslim, both by muslim and non muslim). However, whenever I see the statement by this joker, I really make my blood boiled to the roof as that nutcase is playing politics instead of genuine intention. Pornstar will be stoned under Hudud laws, that's why he scared shitless."What would happen if a Muslim man raped a non-Muslim woman? What would be the punishment?" he queried." What a dumb minister, the man who raped is Muslim so he shall be tried in hudud. Why would the religion of the victim matter? CSL is scared that he will get his 'thing' cut off for all the naughty things he is doing Very simple to understand, CSL - under Hudud, your 25inches dicky would be chopped of fyou can't fuck anymorea hem, extra-curricular activities
But a bigger reason for the Arab world’s stagnation is political. In nearly every Arab Muslim country, the prime enemy of entrepreneurship and the free market is an abusive government—and the strong, unaccountable, and usually despotic regimes that have dominated Arab Muslim populations for decades owe neither their origins nor their legitimacy, such as it is, to Islam. All emerged from the decolonization struggles of the 1950s and 1960s, which, since the primary colonizers were Europeans, provoked angry anti-Western and anticapitalist attitudes in Muslim societies. The decolonization of the Arabs did not go well. Violent confrontations were the norm, even when full-blown war didn’t break out, as happened in Algeria. The upheavals brought military regimes to power in most of the decolonized Arab states; even when the military wasn’t officially in charge, it controlled puppet governments, as in Morocco. All these regimes espoused nationalism and resisted any rule of law that might limit state power—or give entrepreneurs a freer hand.
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PAS' hudud, Malaysia's international status would be affected and foreign investment would drop, impacting everyone
Will the Turkish model spread to nearby Arab countries?
This year’s revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt may answer that question. Remember the man who inspired the revolutions: Mohammed Bouazizi, a young Tunisian who earned a university degree but could find no decent formal employment, a situation all too common for educated young Arabs. Bouazizi sought to make a living from a tiny fruit-and-vegetable stand, but last December, because he hadn’t registered it with the authorities, police confiscated it. Bouazizi then set himself on fire.
The prosperity-crushing influence of government on Muslim entrepreneurship has nowhere been more evident than in Turkey. In the early nineteenth century, the Turkish sultan, like the Egyptian pasha, tried to import Western science and military methods without introducing Western rule of law. “The Ottoman Empire fell into poverty because the dominant concern of the sultans was always to avoid the emergence of a competing power,” explains Turkish economist Evket Pamuk. And the possibility that they feared the most was the birth of a Westernized Turkish bourgeoisie, its power based on private ownership.When the empire became the Turkish Republic in 1921, little changed. The republic’s founder, Mustafa Kemal (later called Atatürk, a name he chose that means “Father of the Turks”), was fascinated by the fashionable Italian fascist ideal. The Turks lacked entrepreneurial spirit, he believed, so it was up to the government to act as a collective entrepreneur and pick those who deserved to start new businesses. Under his regime, which became a military dictatorship after his 1938 death, the Turkish economy made little progress, though a small group of well-connected businessmen grew extremely wealthy.Islam wasn’t to blame for Turkey’s poor economy. Indeed, the new republic was fiercely secular; for decades, no openly devout Muslim could hold any significant position in public service, in the military, or even in business. Modern Turkey started to grow economically only after it began to free up the market under former World Bank economist Turgut Özal, a devout Muslim whom the military had installed as prime minister in 1983 to bring inflation under control. Özal’s reforms opened the way for the openly Islamic, pro-market Justice and Development Party, or AKP, which has ruled Turkey since 2002. Whatever criticisms one might make of the AKP—it has on occasion sought to impose religious norms on a secular society, among other troubling signs—it has brought about an astounding transformation of Turkey’s economy. The state’s budget is balanced, prices are stable, free trade is enthusiastically embraced, and crony capitalism has been constrained. As a consequence, the Turkish growth rate has been one of the world’s highest: 8 percent annually for several years now. Turkey’s per-capita income is now higher than Saudi Arabia’s—and Turkey has no oil.
It should be sobering, therefore, that the police and military isn’t likely to surrender its political privileges easily in any Arab country. Still, most of the political parties emerging in the ferment are supporters of free markets. (Some socialist parties remain in Morocco and Tunisia, where the French influence left its mark, but they are socialist in name only.) The young men and women behind the Arab Spring will continue to push for more open markets where millions of Bouazizis will be able to become entrepreneurs—where it won’t take two years and countless bribes to open a bakery. And there appears to be no cultural or religious reason that someday, in the not-so-distant future, we won’t find cafés in Cairo that run as efficiently and reasonably as those in Marseille.
Bouazizi’s suicide brought millions of Arabs to the streets because they could identify with him. Human rights leaders didn’t start the revolutions; neither did long-banned Islamic movements like the Muslim Brotherhood. The upheavals weren’t characterized by Islamic banners or by Israeli flags going up in flames (though there were disturbing reports of Muslims attacking Christian churches in Egypt after the police had vanished from the streets). No, the dominant message of the Arab Spring was that the Arabs didn’t want to remain separated from the rest of the world. The Egyptian students in Tahrir Square couldn’t have put it more clearly: they wanted democracy, globalization, and market prosperity, not Islamicization. “We want a normal country, which means free enterprise and democracy,” said one of their leaders, Amr Salah of the Cairo Institute for Human Rights, in Paris this April. Even the notorious Muslim Brotherhood is on board with capitalism: “Our economic program is a free-market society in order to pursue social justice,” says Sameh al-Barqui, an American-educated economics expert with the Brotherhood.
The transition from the Arab world’s authoritarian regimes to democracy, markets, and the rule of law is far from guaranteed, of course. For a reminder of the difficulty of installing successful Western-style capitalism, consider Rifaa, who returned to Egypt after seven years in France and became the pasha’s main advisor—overseeing the translation of French scientific books into Arabic, founding the first Arabic newspapers, and opening schools for girls. Though Rifaa faced the hostility of Muslim conservatives, his reforms, accompanying the era’s shifts in sharia, inaugurated an era of modernization in Egypt. By the late nineteenth century, Cairo was starting to look like a European city, with electricity, sanitation, universities, and an independent press. But the renaissance didn’t last long, because Rifaa repeatedly failed to persuade the pasha to accept a Western-style constitution, which would have limited the ruler’s arbitrary power. What kept Egypt back was its failure to establish the rule-governed institutions familiar in the West.Muhyiddin:
Don't Mess With my Malay Muslim agenda,Najib UMNO's top chef calls last orders The enemy within Lesser evil Muhyiddin the next disaster from UMNO
Let's try to understand the 64-year-old Muhyiddin and what makes him tick. People can understand each other better amongst their own peer groups, culture and race. For example, students and youths understand their own peers. They can appreciate, envy and emulate each other, yet for motivation, people will always aim high and look beyond their own group.
That is how people should be motivated and in Malaysia's endeavor to be a developed and great nation with high-income levels, the leadership must be able to set a high standard and work towards achieving it. It should never look back, nor should it ever lower the benchmark.
Yet Muhyiddin has displayed a different kind of mentality. His views are not in sync with what one would expect of a true leader at all. During a “buka puasa” (breaking of the Muslim fast) event organized by the Ministry of Information in collaboration with JAKIM and MAIWP, Muhyiddin proudly proclaimed that,”It has been proven that the world looks at Malaysia as a special nation that should be envied.”Dr M admitting he didn't do a good job at all!
Dato’ Tamrin Ghafar, the son of former Deputy Prime Minister Tun Ghafar Baba, will submit his membership form to PAS tonight, sources said, making him the second UMNO veteran to leave the ruling Barisan Nasional’s (BN) mainstay in a month.Tamrin’s defection, coming on the heels of senior Sabah UMNO leader Datuk Seri Lajim Ukin’s resignation from his supreme council seat in the Malay party two weeks ago and pledging support to Pakartan Rakyat (PR), is seen as coup for the opposition in the run-up to the 13th general election due soon.
“Tamrin will hand over his membership form to PAS Deputy President, Mohamad Sabu. “Even before this, he has always been giving speeches with Abang Mat everywhere,” a PAS official who asked not to be named told The Malaysian Insider. He was referring to Mohamad, popularly known as Mat Sabu.
Tamrin was Batu Berendam MP in Malacca for nearly a decade, from 1986 to 1995. The constituency has been renamed Bukit Katil.
His father, the late Tun Ghafar, had been an UMNO strongman since the days 
of the Malaysia’s founding father and first Prime Minister, Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra Al-Haj. Ghafar had once been Malacca chief minister in the early days of the country’s independence.
of the Malaysia’s founding father and first Prime Minister, Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra Al-Haj. Ghafar had once been Malacca chief minister in the early days of the country’s independence.But Tamrin, the second of Ghafar’s 11 children, has been batting for the PR pact in the last few years, alleging that UMNO has deviated from its original struggle under Prime Minister and Party President Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s leadership.
“UMNO has run away from original fight to prioritise the people.Under Najib, UMNO no longer defends the people but has taken away their rights,” he had previously said while on the stump with PR leaders in Kuala Lumpur.
For his open criticism of UMNO, Tamrin was given a show-cause letter by the party’s disciplinary board on July 26. PAS has been actively courting and winning over several former pro-establishment figures and top local artistes popular with the Malay community in recent days, in a bid to burnish its progressive Islamist credentials ahead of key polls that must be called by next April.
Malaysia’s longest-serving Prime Minister, Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad, had recently warned Najib against further estranging members of the ruling coalition, saying any defections could “result in BN losing the next election.”
Indirectly Mahathir is admitting that his 22-year rule has not done much at all in making Malaysia a developed nation. His critics say this is because whatever he put in with his right hand, he took out more than triple with his left hand.
It is obvious Mahathir has long ago bid goodbye to Vision 2020 - if ever he was serious about it at all. Many pundits say Vision 2020 that aimed for a Bangsa Malaysia without racial lines was just his way of appeasing the people after they nearly threw him out of office for sacking and jailing his deputy Anwar Ibrahim on trumped-up sodomy charges.
So if someone as racist as Mahathir can rule Malaysia for 22 years and get away with it by planting one excuse after another, why not Muhuyiddin who has already shown similar signs of using racial politics to become popular with his 'Malay first, Malaysian next' statement.
By the way Mahathir may be right in comparing Malaysia with Africa. Yes, the Southeast Asian nation is not yet like any of the poorer African countries but with the present trend of leadership and the unabated greed and corruption of its leaders, it can easily be. Especially if UMNO-BN continues to rule after GE-13, Greek and Africa-like crises may be Malaysia's to experience next.
Now, there is nothing wrong with his statement but when he explained that his conclusion is based on the comments by visitors from Palestine, Somalia and Afghanistan, it is laughable and his naivete becomes the joke. With such low satisfaction levels signifying commensurately low IQ, Muhyiddin looks set to become the next disaster from UMNO if it wins GE-13 and he is selected to be prime minister in place of Najib Razak.
So, while waiting for further orders from Mahathir, who still wields enormous influence, Muhyiddin has been carrying on with his daily activities as if all is fine in UMNO. Some even say Muhyiddin is smiling to himself, under the happy impression that he just has to wait for the big moment to come when he will replace Najib whether UMNO and the BN coalition it leads wins or loses in the GE-13.
In the past, such a prospect would have raised a howl of horror around the UMNO divisions in the country because Muhyiddin too has his own baggage, albeit less heavy and controversial than Najib's. Nonetheless, the fear used to be that if UMNO-BN wins, he would become Prime Minister and that would be a disaster for Malaysia like an earthquake with a reading of 7 on the Richter scale and an epicenter in Putrajaya.
But with Najib's failure to do better and Mahathir proving all his critics right that he is the darkest and most dangerous force in the UMNO-BN blocking a more normal democratic rule in a multiracial Malaysia, Muhyiddin as PM has become less alarming.
It is the classic case of being the lesser of many evils.
Worried Mahathir steps inYet no amount of money can hide the fact that Malay support for UMNO is dwindling and Najib's personal popularity on the slide. The recent Merdeka Center survey shows his approval rating still on the down slide - now at 64% - and BN's at an all-time low of 42% due mainly to erosion of support from the Malays.So worried is Mahathir that Najib will commit another disaster at the 13th general election that the 87-year-old has decided to step in and pull the strings before it is too late. That is how bad the situation is in UMNO. The only weapon Najib has in his hand is the timing of the GE-13 and he is using this to hold the 'warlords' to ransom.
Party insiders say his deputy Muhyiddin Yassin is "simply pretending" not to be challenging Najib at this critical moment because Najib is already under control - Mahathir's!
UMNO has always felt under siege, but its internal problems could be more damaging than any external threat.The rift is between Mahathir's proxy Muhyiddin and Najib, who believe any compromise with Muhyiddin is unacceptable. Zealous
Bersih a new social movement was born demanding an end to corruption, lower inflation and cuts to public services. Almost half a million Voters took to the streets to protest. It was the biggest wave of demonstrations in the country's history.
It appears to be an open secret that Muhyiddin is back-stabbing and trying to undermine Najib at every opportunity in an attempt to rise above the Umno cesspool to become PM. This is not the first time that Muhyiddin has publicly contradicted and thus embarrassed Najib. We all know about his ‘Malay first, Malaysian second' pronouncement soon after the announcement of 1Malaysia.
Most of the issues are self-created by Umno and then MCA or MIC or Gerakan, etc, will appeal to Najib and the PM will say that he is listening to the Chinese through MCA or Indians through MIC.If BN cannot accept what the rakyat demand, then the rakyat must use the vote to change the government.
Imposing laws against freedom of expression is not justified and repulsive. Section 114A will see an end to the ruling government. Voters will know what to do at GE13, vote ABU (Anything But Umno). The ISA was never meant to silence critics and opposition to government but it was, nevertheless, used and abused.
So please spare us the crap that the government needs Section 114A to combat terrorism and cybercrime in view of the repeal of the ISA and other preventive detention laws.
I guarantee you that Umno-BN will support a revisit of the Evidence Act if they lose the next general election.
Take note: ‘114' in Cantonese dialect means ‘tiap tiap hari mati' (die every day). BN beware.
So, there people must therefore vote for them to ensure that their respective interests are protected by someone who represents them in the government and not take it up to the opposition, which cannot do anything for them.
Perhaps it is poetic justice administered in a roundabout way - second PM Abdul Razak stabbed first PM Tunku Abdul Rahman, and now Muhyiddin does it to his son.
As part of its political strategy leading up to the general election, PKR should highlight Muhyiddin's frequent contradictions and the constant embarrassment he causes Najib.
Then we sit back and see how they defend each other and pretend that everything is okay between them.We should be reminded of the fact that the 'critics' who the cabinet claims had misinterpreted the law and took it out of context include experts who are highly familiar and experienced in law.
How the law is not meant to be used and how it can be abused because the wordings says so, are two very different things.
It's like how the ISA and the Emergency Ordinance were never meant to detain political opponents but terrorists. It is the latter that we are concerned about and it is not reading anything out of context. It is in plain English and we can read
These law experts brief the courts on the interpretations of the law. As such, if the critics had misinterpreted the law, then the judiciary is also capable of misinterpreting the law.
Further, the cabinet justifies the need for Section 114A to combat terrorism and cybercrime in view of the repeal of the ISA (Internal Security Act) and other preventive detention laws.
In other words, it admits that it had only dropped the form of these laws and has actually supplanted it in substance with the amendment to the Evidence Act, something which the public had all the time suspected.
DPM Muhyiddin Yassin, who has openly defied PM Najib Razak on certain issues, is at it again. Is Najib going to return to Malaysia as a PM or going to be forced to toe the line Muhyiddin draws? Is a coup d'etat imminent? Either way, BN is doomed.
What sort of choice do UMNO delegates have in their leadership lineup? That there is a dearth of talent in UMNO is well-known with even former premier and party president Mahathir Mohamad admitting as much.
This talent vacuum will be UMNO's deathblow - not the Chinese, Indians, Kadazans, Dusun, Murut, the Dayaks or Ibans. Not even the Christians or Israel can be blamed. It is fair and square UMNO's own fault including Mahathir's for being selfish and wishing to keep the spoils of the game 'all within the family'.Young Malay leaders such as PKR's Nurul Izaah, Rafizi Ramli, PAS' Dzulkefly Ahmad, Khalid Samad or DAP's Zairil Khir Johari would never dream of touching UMNO with a 10-foot pole, so bad is its brand name. UMNO has simply become synonymous with corruption, racism, sex and gutter policing - you name it, the party has been caught doing it.
For UMNO leaders, the name of the game is not how to serve Malaysia but how to make money from Malaysia. For example, current party president Prime Minister Najib Razak carries a back-breaking amount of 'baggage', literally dragging UMNO down with his personal scandals and inability to make decisions.
Yet UMNO grins and puts up with it. They even accept Najib's panacea for all the criticism, which is to spend more of taxpayers money on public relations to magnify himself and to deny all negative accusations against his administration and party. As if the people have no minds of their own!
Karpal Singh said today he will sue Nasharudin Mat Isa for defamation after the renegade former PAS No. 2 appeared this week to side with Umno by pressing his party to leave Pakatan Rakyat (PR) and accusing the DAP leader of being against Islam.
The DAP national chairman told The Malaysian Insider that the former PAS deputy president’s remarks about him yesterday “are highly irresponsible and mischievous”, and that “I have never spoken against Islam”.
However, the fiery lawyer stressed that hudud law cannot be implemented in the country as “hudud can only be applied in an Islamic state” while Malaysia remained a secular country.
“Time and time again I have said I respect Islam as the official religion of the country,” Karpal (picture) said when contacted.
“What DAP have been saying is we are not for an Islamic state. That is just a political concept,” he added.
Umno leaders and its Utusan Malaysia newspaper have in the past week accused the DAP of being “kafir harbi”, or belligerent infidels, declaring it “haram” or forbidden for Muslims to support the secular PR party.
Karpal is a lightning rod for Umno attacks because of his strong opposition to hudud.
The DAP veteran said today he hoped Nasharudin would “understand the difference between Islam (as a religion) and Islamic state”.
“Our constitution provides for a secular state, and in Malaysia it is secular law which applies. You must have an Islamic state before we can have hudud law,” he said.
“I’m not saying PAS is wrong, but we cannot apply hudud because ours is a secular state. Our law doesn’t allow it,” he reiterated.
Karpal believed Nasharudin was expressing his personal views on the matter and was not speaking on behalf of his party.
“In view of the seriousness of his statement, I’m filing a defamation suit against him.”
Nasharudin said yesterday that “Karpal Singh is not only against hudud but also against Islam”, adding that as a lawyer, Karpal should know that the implementation of the Islamic penal code required high standards of proof.
“For some offences, proof beyond any shadow of doubt is required. But he (Karpal) rejects all this just because it is an Islamic law,” Nasharudin said.
The discontent in PAS against Nasharudin grew this week following his remarks calling for the party to leave the PR opposition pact if the DAP continues to oppose hudud. The news was broadcast on TV3’s prime time news slot Buletin Utama earlier this week.
His comment is seen to run counter to the party’s official stand, made by PAS president Datuk Seri Hadi Awang and carried by Harakah this week.
Hadi had written an article to explain how the Islamist party could co-operate with the secular DAP despite their different political ideologies as they shared a common aim.
The DAP may be opposed to hudud but Umno has rejected the Islamic penal code, Hadi said, as he defended his PR ally that had come under relentless attacks from rival leaders and religious hawks in the run-up to crucial national polls.
Pointing out the position of PR parties, he said that “just as DAP cannot force PAS members to consume alcohol or pork, PAS too cannot prevent DAP members from consuming alcohol or pork”.
“The PAS constitution compels us to sack any member who consumes alcohol or pork. The Umno constitution does not compel the sacking of its members for drinking with the MCA, MIC and Gerakan,” Hadi said.
Several conservative Islamic muftis and religious scholars had dubbed the DAP a party full of “kafir harbi” and told Malaysia’s dominant Muslim voters that it is “haram” or forbidden to support it at the 13th general election that must be called by next April.
“In reality, this term ‘hudud’ has returned and been made an electoral issue by Umno to create conflict among the people, without feeling responsibility towards Islam’s pure guidance,” the PAS president said in the article.
He noted that the DAP has been portrayed as a party opposed to hudud by the mainstream media controlled by the BN government, when it was Umno ― the ruling coalition’s mainstay ― that has rejected the enforcement of the Islamic penal code.
In his article titled “Hudud: DAP Menentang, Umno Menolaknya (Hudud: DAP Opposes, Umno Rejects)”, Hadi said that there were no issues with PAS working with the secular party even though the DAP has repeatedly stated that it will not brook the creation of an Islamic state or support the enforcement of the religious criminal code that prescribes, among others, the amputation of hands for theft.
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